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thank to my panel and especially all of you. i'm paul giggo, hope to see you i'm paul giggo, hope to see you here next week. captioned by closed captioning services, inc. it's full spin ahead as the white house pumps it out for positive press and the president talks tough on tv. >> we talk to these folks, they potentially have the best answers so i know whose ass to kick. >> how did the media react. >> tell them to get out of palestine. >> controversial remarks and helen thompson, leaving a prime media seat up for grabs, who should get it. >> a trial for a defamed governor gets started. >> has the media circus get started. did pressure from the press help pin a suspected killer to a murder? slipping and sliding with bp biden. which members of the media were part of the party?
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on the panel this week, writers and fox thewes contributor judy miller. syndicated columnist cal thomas, jim pinkerton fellow american foundation and news day columnist, elliss henican. i'm jon scott, fox news watch is on right now. oil continues to gush into the gulf this week as reports of progress were mixed. and images of the oil slick and dead birds kept the media's attention. the white house ramped up its efforts to prove that mr. obama is fully engaged in stopping this thing. releasing pictures of his meetings and unleashing an angry president obama. >> i don't sit around just talking to experts because this is a college seminar. we talk to these folks because they potentially have the best answers so i know whose ass to ki kick. >> jon: well, that sound bite from the media unleashed a torrent of media reaction, sum
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it up for us, cal. >> first of all, the president was set up to say this by matt lauer who used the word butt-kicking and the president took it to the next level. >> and suggesting he didn't think the president was sufficiently angry, but the media is complicit in this. they're the ones that built him into a kryptonite defying superman. he was the man, he said it himself. lower the waters and he could even walk on water, including in his-- as far as many of the press were concerned, but now, it appears that he's mortal like the rest of us. and all of a sudden, there's buyers remorse that's kicked in. >> after the ass-kicking comments let me read a couple of headlines. obama goes street seeking ass to kick and time magazine's senior political reporter mark halprin called the headline racial, was it? >> i don't think so, but i can see why, you know, drudge picked the headline and i can see why
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plenty in the media loved the idea of obama as an african-american and loved the street credibility. as i said in the show, bill mauer said he should pull out a gun and spike lee and these kind of people celebrate that aspect of obama and when he pulls it out. drudge took note of that. >> jon: there seems to be more media reaction to the president's handling of the crisis, i tnk he got a pass in the early days, but is the white house working, do you think, to appear tougher? >> message, we care. the president gets itment i mean, we all may be very sorry that we asked the white house and the president to show us that they cared because now they're doing nothing, but that. but you know, the president's anger seems to be as directed at the press and the media as it is at bp. no matter what he says, and the message somehow, is this really what this crisis is about.
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messaging? or is it about the fact that he's still isn't doing the things that he could do to counter this crisis? and that the press doesn't seem to pay much attention to. >> let me read you, elliss, something that ap wrote. ron fournier, the bureau chief wrote about the gulf oil spill. nobody led, not the president of the united states, not the chief executive of bp, not congress, federal agencies or local elected officials. are they just now figuring that out? >> wait, no ass in the question. >> jon: no ass. i like when you talk dirty like that. listen, when it comes to symbols in pr, tone matters. and the tone was wrong at the beginning. it was the no trauma drama obama that so many americans thought we wanted after the eight years of maybe a little too much drama and now we're getting the flip side of it. >> jon: do you think he should jump up on a fire truck and grab a bull horn? >> no, because i think it's fake. he got a pretty good read of it. a little flash of anger, but i
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don't think we want this guy to pretend to be some kind of steroidal maniac. and it's not productive and not who he is. >> i agree with judy and elliss both said, look, emotion doesn't really matter. what matters is the technical competence of the government or bp to clean this stuff up because we can drill that deep we can clean up that deep. nobody seems to be thinking about what machines and technology do we need to solve this problem. obama could be cool as a cucumber or hot as hell and it wouldn't make a difference to the oil. >> jon: even of greater significance, i think, is how the european media, especially the british media are turning on a president that they admired during the campaign. you had on your show on friday happening now, the james heartic, the editor of the times of london who said the british people are angry the way that bp has been treat and pointed out there, the huge, millions of pounds of money tied up in pension funds and they don't like the way that bp is being beaten up in the british press.
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>> a hit for the home team and america, sometimes when we have international issues, we're for the home team. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. >> a correlation between teams and the world cup and who the folks-- >> i haven't heard of that. >> jon: is being jing goistic wt mr. obama is saying. >> let's not kid ourselves, these are huge international n conglomerates that spend huge amounts of money and that's something that i wonder, where is the press when bp spends millions on these ridiculous ads in newspapers that also basically say, we care, we care. >> where is the press? taking the money. >> no, no, no, no, they're blaming obama for something at that they should be focusing on bp about. >> jon: and then there was this, cal, ref vanverend jesse jackso telling people they should boycott bp stations which isn't going to hurt the bp
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corporation, it's going to hurt the individual franchisees that own the stations, should he just be ignored? >> yes. >> jamie: in a word? >> in a word. >> a long time ago he should have been ignored years ago. he has long outlived his sell-by date. >> jon: and when it comes to the meeting with tony hayward, the bp ceo, it seemed like robert gibbs, the presidential spokesman sort of got badgered into it. he didn't have an answer earlier in the week when asked whether mr. obama would meet with him. by the end of the week it was all set up. >> the press figures this stuff out slow, as we agree and why isn't obama being emotional. and the white house says let's get emotional and the press figures he hasn't met with bp. let's meet with bp. the obama administration does not appear, i don't think even elliss will agree with this, to be ahead of the story. >> so they're being pushed into it by the media. pushed into management of it. >> a little bit. but the pageant doesn't matter. what means turning off the oil
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and being aggressive yet, we've taken this role in the media that we want to be drama critics. no, this didn't happen quickly enough or didn't show emotion. >> and might be drama critics, but worse to have the script written by the media. >> the media is writing the script and blame him for not playing in the script. quit doing that. >> if only the media would say bring in the men who made ironmen and-- >> kevin costner is here. >> afrts. >> jon: avatar. you can catch what we don't say on tv after the show on f foxnews.c news watch. >> tell them to get the hell out of palestine. >> helen thomas' rein at the white house comes it an end. now that her prize seat is open, who is going to get it?
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details next on news watch.
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>> any comments on israel? >> tell them to get the hell out of palestine. >> ooh. any better comments-- >> remember, these people are occupied and it's their land, not german, it's not poland. where should they go, what should they do. >> go home. >> where is home? >> poland, germany. >> you think the jews should go back to poland and germany. >> and america and everywhere else. >> well, those words from veteran journalist helen thomas. the reaction to them caused her to call it quits. she retired apparently ending the career she began as a copy girl in 1942. thomas had covered the white house since john kennedy was president and because of her longevity she held that prized front row center seat. her departure asks the question,
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which news organization will get that seat. first, her statements, your reaction. >> you know, john brennan, counterterrorism advisor can't bring himself to stay the words injure jerusalem. maybe helen didn't want to mention israel and speaks about occupied palestine. i think the l.a. times got it right. a sad finale to a career that was truly distinguished and trail blazing in many ways, but it should have ended. it was time. >> she had a history of strong opinion, especially in the latter years. did you once in your one of your columns call her mount st. helen? >> no, that was somebody else. this is part of the continuing debate over liberals and conservatives in the media. do the biases enter into reporting. this was an exposure of ten on a scale of one to ten, that of course it does and it didn't help with that video, the close-up of her features, which reminds me of the opening scene
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of macbeth. >> i thought i was looking at the witch project. >> howard kirtz reported that she said back in 1982, quote, thank god for hezbollah. now, i guess the rest of the press corps, which sort of enjoyed listening to her talk and trash, especially george w. bush, just gave her a pass on that. kept that secret for almost 30 years if she was rooting for the terrorists killing americans. >> and killing jews. >> well, listen very good argument for the 65-year-old retirement age. 75, way-- >> i mean, listen, you know, she's a woman who had a great run, a great career and has gotten to be an old coot at the end and-- >> 90. >> there's even one piece i think we all are happy to denounce what she said. there's a little thing we need to be careful of when the correspondent's association and others get into the business of weighing the positions of people
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inside the press corps. i don't think we want the white house doing that and i don't think we want our own brethren doing that. >> you're talking about the seating chart? >> yeah, the seating chart, the question-- >> and who is suppose today seat them, elliss. >> granted, but seat them based on the organizations they represent, on the work they do. not so much on the personal opinions that they may hold. because tomorrow, guys, that's going to turn on you all. >> i don't think they did that. >> they were revoking her seat and talking about pulling her out of that role in the white house. >> they're just now considering whether or not an opinion journalist ought to be in the front row and i think that's appropriate for them to decide. >> jon: a lot of viewers might be surprised to know that the white house does not do the seating chart. it is done by something called the white house correspondent's association, which is after all, a group of political reporters. you've worked in the white house, who gets the seat? i mean, how does that process work? >> it's all politics like everything else, the finals appear to be fox news and bloomberg news.
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>> jon: fox is the only network that doesn't have a correspondent in the front row. and bloomberg-- >> i'm rooting for fox. >> jon: bloomberg, the financial wire service, or financial service, it doesn't have a correspondent in the front row. >> you make a good case. >> should we let ratings decide? >> i think with the exception of the hookups because broadcasters have requirements that print and radio people even don't have, television broadcasters, i think it ought to be open seating. it is on southwest airlines, that works out all right. >> so you'd hire some kid to sit there from six in the morning to save our seat? is that where we're going with this. >> that's part of the elitism that people hate about the media, that you've got these prime seats reserved for the elite media. what is the elite media are down in market share, they're down in circulation in their newspapers, who's got the audience. this network. >> well, and i appreciate that you like, when huff post got that nice role. that's dear to my heart. >> i'm pulling for my buddy major garrett to move up a row.
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>> yes. >> jon: time for another break, if you come across a one-sided story that you think illustrates media bias, e-mail us at news wat up next, the blagojevich corruption trial begins and the media gives it center stage. the beginning of a process to finally unlock the lock box that's holding the screws in-- >> the rod blagojevich trial begins and the blago media circus takes the stage. what antics should we expect? and the media's mission to pin van der sloot for murder may see success. what role did the press play in the latest drama? all next on news watch. ccccccc
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>> well, the media have been tracking him for five years, joran van der sloot, the prime suspect in the disappearance of an american teenager, natalee
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halloway. he says he will tell authorities in aruba where to find her remains. that according to police in peru where he is accused of killing another young woman, stephany flore flores, van der sloot is in custody in peru held on murder charges and has been sort of the media's favorite criminal suspect, uncharged criminal suspe suspect. did they, you know, did the media essentially build the case against him? >> first of all, i'm not sure i'm going to go with favorite on that. it was a fascinating case down there and the fact it was never able to be made and everyone had great suspensions and never quite had the proof to make the case. listen, it was a compelling story and i think we covered it, nothing to apologize for. >> kudos to gretta van cess stren who has kept this story and especially van der sloot alive in the public consciousness for several years, she's done a tremendous job on that. secondly look at the story itself, predatory, big male, preying on young innocent
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females. let's see, where else have i heard this? csi, all of them. every network show has the same theme. it plays into the desire by the advertisers to a female audience so they can sell them more products, it's something you see on entertainment, something you see in real life. >> wasn't there the feeling that the media chose him as a villain because the media felt that he got off too easily when he was arrested those two times in aruba. >> i think i agree with elliss on this one, it's just a question of this is where the trail of evidence was leading and the only question is, and i'd like to see more reporting on this, why did it take so long to actually nail the guy. why did another woman have to die. what happened in that investigation, other than gretta and hats off to her. >> incompetent police in aruba. i want to see more about that and who was paid. >> at least one other woman, as geraldo rivera on this network suggested. there might well be more than just these two. it's also interesting,
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everybody's got videotape: the pursue peruion casino and hotel can give us television. >> jon: another story, this one out of chicago. the corruption trial of former governor rod blagojevich and the media circus. >> when you're falsely accused of things you didn't do, and lied about, when people have been lied to and now in the media has been lied to. the government has hidden behind their lies. >> jon: he has pleaded not guilty to charges that he tried to profit from his power to fill the u.s. senate seat vacated by barack obama once he was elected president and accusations that blago squeezed people for campaign contributions. judy, he has never met a camera he doesn't like. are the media rooting for him? >> look, i just -- it's a gift at that keeps on going. i just don't know how they're going to find a jury of men and women who don't have an opinion about blago because they've seen
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so much of him. you know, really, he's compared himself to nelson mandela and even to osama bin laden. how good does it get? >> have the media picked a villain in this case? >> the media are fast fated. i'd say this in the week of sestak and romanoff and white house machinenations, it's a legitimate story. i think if you had to pick a story that's going to grow and grow and grow over the next year, it's this one. >> jim is exactly wrong about this one. this guy is irrelevant, he's a second rate reality tv star at this point. maybe marginally more interesting than the hair gel guy on-- and yesterday's news, yesterday's news. >> and talked to rahm emanuel or not? >> i don't know. >> but it seems to play on two levels, there's the local chicago story and the national story. >> a political story. now, you said second rate. remember, nixon called watergate a third rate burglary, that's how they all start. >> it's not the crime it's the
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>> jon: summer just a few days away here allowing the president's man to take away from the daily drudgery and enjoy a backyard beach party at vice president's machine shone. joining them a few journalists, wolf blitzer and mark haming er flipping on the water slide. kl ee ee frolicking, as well.
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we took note of it. the countdown, as well. >> so which is the chance. there was david of the "new york times" hang weigh rahm emanuel and with wolf blitzer with a couple best reporters. see with all the reporters there you think they would have better video. but it's fun to see politicians to see them super soakgo each other. [ laughter ] fighting over who gets to hit shotgun. are you jourj ivts or are you a resort wrote? >> jon: nobody here on the panel got an invite. >> so i don't know, i used to ride the metro liner with joe biden to see what he knew about intelligence. sliding down the slide and all that >> jon: thank

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